Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Motor's I have tried in the Ground Pounder

This list will grow with time.

Below are a few tables showing the Spec's of the Mabuchi equivalents of the stock motor and a few others that may be of interest .  When looking at the chart's the last 2 digits of the part number denote how many turns the motor is . 


MODELVOLTAGENO LOADAT MAXIMUM EFFICIENCYSTALL
OPERATING
RANGE
NOMINALSPEEDCURRENTSPEEDCURRENTTORQUEOUTPUTTORQUECURRENT
Vr/minAr/minAmN·mg·cmWmN·mg·cmA
RS-540SH7520(*1)4.8 - 7.27.2234002.401974013.030.631263.2196199870.0
6527(*1)4.8 - 9.69.6234001.60200409.5531.031664.9216220257.0
MODELVOLTAGENO LOADAT MAXIMUM EFFICIENCYSTALL
OPERATING
RANGE
NOMINALSPEEDCURRENTSPEEDCURRENTTORQUEOUTPUTTORQUECURRENT
Vr/minAr/minAmN·mg·cmWmN·mg·cmA
RS-550PC8019(*1)6.0 - 9.67.2153001.401354010.841.742559.1363370083.0
RS-550VC7525(*1)6.0 - 14.412176001.201573010.158.359495.9549559685.0

Stock 20 turn  540 motor 

On flat ground it has a reasonable amount of speed but has unsatisfactory torque and high temperatures with the stock 23 tooth pinion. Installing a 17 tooth pinion improved things but still wasn't to a level I felt was appropriate .


Pinion Tooth Count: 23
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 3216
Top Speed (MPH): 25.73


Pinion Tooth Count: 17
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 3216
Top Speed (MPH): 19.02


27 turn 540 Mabuchi  


With a 17 tooth pinion temperatures where good top speed was mild but enjoyable . The boost in torque was noticeable.


Pinion Tooth Count: 23
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 2437
Top Speed (MPH): 19.49



Pinion Tooth Count: 17
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 2437
Top Speed (MPH): 14.41


550 19 turn Redcat Racing part # 28446

Don't ask me why the motor is listed as a 19 turn when the code on the can states its a 20 turn all I can say is close enough.

This motor to me is a good first mild upgrade if you can find it on Ebay or such for less than $15 bucks. If its over $20 there are other options out there that can get you essentially the same motor or better for the same cash.

To be honest this is the motor that should have shipped with the Ground Pounder from the factor as it provides a reasonable top speed " but slower than stock" and plenty of torque with the included 23 tooth pinion . If you want a bit more speed you could easily install a bigger pinion and sacrifice a bit of torque for more speed. Or you up the voltage which would be what I would do .


Pinion Tooth Count: 23
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 2125
Top Speed (MPH): 17

Pinion Tooth Count: 33
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 2125
Top Speed (MPH): 24.39

Pinion Tooth Count: 23
Total Voltage: 12.60
Motor KV: 2125
Top Speed (MPH): 25.5

Leopard LBP3650/3.5D 3900KV 4-Poles Inrunner Brushless Motor RTR

Pulled this motor and the ESC from the Redcat Twister I am No longer running . All I can say is wow complete over kill Currently Running this with a 10 tooth Mod 1 pinion and the 43 tooth Mod 1 spur gear . After twisting  2 driveshafts I have lowered the punch level of the HobbyWing / Lansu ESC to 2 and am now lowering the timing to make it more drivable and to help safeguard the fresh shafts till upgraded ones are installed . 

Spec's

Max
Amps
Max VoltageMax
Power
KV
(RPM/V)
Resistance
Dia. x Length
(mm)

Length of
Extend Shaft
Shaft Dia.Weight

86A15V1300W3900KV0.0075Φ36.0×50
16mm5mm185g

Pinion Tooth Count: 10
Spur gear tooth count: 43
Total Voltage: 8.4
Motor KV: 3900
Top Speed (MPH): 25.55

(Not attempted yet )
Pinion Tooth Count: 10
Spur gear tooth count: 43
Total Voltage: 12.6
Motor KV: 3900
Top Speed (MPH): 38.33






6 comments:

  1. This is great stuff! Thabks so much for these tests!

    ? Whats the max volt the stock setup (motor, esc, driveshafts, diff, everything can handle. Im running 7.2v. Can you go up to 8 or 9?

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    1. Max voltage is subjective . There are to many variables to really make a claim. I can say , I first started breaking driveshafts during braking not while accelerating . The ESC is rated for 3S lipos so a nominal voltage of around 11 will be fine for it . The more power you add the more important shimming the diff's are . The first thing you will destroy is the spur gear .

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  2. I also just found this place and love what I've read so far.

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  3. Theres no way those speeds are in mph. Its kmh

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    1. No the speeds listed are in MPH . Though the speeds listed would require a flat hard surface and a battery that can maintain its voltage at or above the voltage listed which a properly selected fully charged lipo can do for awhile . Due to the light weight and style of suspension 30 MPH is about all the chassis can handle even on a smooth surface .

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